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knowdavid
07-03-2000, 08:23 AM
Hello everyone,

I am currently designing a Netscape version of a website. I got the alignment of tables down, but I have one little issue. To get a picture of this current problem, open the following link with IE (if you have higher than 800x600) and look at the green part on the right:

http://206.225.34.101/msie/home.html

Now, using Netscape, take a look at my Netscape version of the same page and look for the same green part:

http://206.225.34.101/nnav/home.html

How can I make the green part span the same as it does in the IE version, without producing a horizontal scrolling bar for viewers who have 800x600?

Thank you very much for your time on this. All input is appreciated.

knowdavid

caislander
07-03-2000, 03:27 PM
Hi knowdavid,

If you will tell me the name of the green spacer image, as if I try to get the name from the page it says spacer as does the purple image since I know both can't have the same name, I will try and help you out. It would also be helpful to know the line # of that gif within the code if your HTML editor give you that info (just saves lookin for it at my end).



[Edited by caislanders on 07-03-2000 at 10:53 AM]

knowdavid
07-06-2000, 11:13 AM
caislanders,

the image src for the green background image is http://206.225.34.101/msie/images/greenbg.gif and the source code for that portion of the page can be found about 10 lines from the bottom on the /msie/ page and about 5 lines from the bottom on the /nnav/ page.

Thanks in advance for the help.

knowdavid

caislander
07-06-2000, 05:44 PM
David,

I know you SHOULDN'T have to go to these lengths but just to try and solve the problem for you consider, switching the last 2 tables on the NN page, so that the first table in the sequence (right side) is the table that contains the background image and the 2nd table contained in the 1st would be the one that holds the layout. This would be same as you have layout the left side layout done. See if that will take care of the problem. Sorry if this is confusing :confused: if you don't understand just post again and I will try to explain better.

Hope This Works For You.

gzazJim
07-06-2000, 06:44 PM
caislanders and knowdavid,

I had a look at the page (nice set up by the way...), and I realized that you appear to be having the exact same problem as i with NN and the way it handles tables. The problem seems to occur especially when tables are being used as a design element rather than simply a data-formatting element.

On my site - http://www.gzaz.com - every page I viewed with NN displays the right-hand, yellow TD/column differently. This is occurring even though I have the column/TD "width" attribute set to an absolute value. Interestingly, NN still needed to see an " " in every column/TD that didn't contain data in order for it to display at all.

What I am attempting to do is set up a page with multiple tables and data and see how I can get IE and NN to display them identically. I should have something more on this problem by this afternoon (It's about 11:00 am here), as I'm running into the same problem with my job's Internet site-redesign.

Until then, Good Luck!

Jim

caislander
07-07-2000, 06:34 PM
Hi knowdavid,

Just following up, did either one of the above solutions solve the problem you were having or are we still looking for another answer here?

Let Us Know ;)

knowdavid
07-07-2000, 06:34 PM
caislanders + gzazJim:

Okay, I think I have found a solution for now. Basically I used spacer images to give me the first thick black line on the page within a table of 100%. Then I put the left purple area and the main text area within the first <TD> and set COLSPAN=2 for the area that i needed the greenbg.gif image to be the background in. Therefore, it would have to stretch across, right. Well, I still had to use a width of 100% for that same <TD> referenced earlier in this paragraph, which seemed odd.

Have a look at the page and code at:

http://www.sojourntx.com/iii/nnav/home.html (in netscape)

and tell me what you think (I cleaned up some spacing on the source code so it should be easy to read). I think I will nest a new table inside and have the main text white area ROWSPAN both rows of the table, leaving the other lower row <TD> areas transparent to the lbluebg.gif background. That way, the greenbg.gif background on the right will only span as far down as the three-pic image to the left of it. In other words it will look like the IE version of the page at http://www.sojourntx.com/msie/home.html.

I only include this full description and all the detail becuase it seems that this type of thing may help both of you in the future. Thanks for all the help.

knowdavid

RE: gzazJim

I noticed in Netscape that what you spoke of is true though I personally do not think it takes away from the asthetic qualities of the page, but I understand that its annoying for browsers to misbehave. :-)

knowdavid
07-07-2000, 06:37 PM
PS:

why doesn't netscape preload my images on this page like IE does? does it have anything to do with referencing a *.js file?

Thanks!

David